DATE: January
2, 1996
INTERVIEWER:
LOCATION: Cleo “Neg” Sauce’s house at Oxford Loop,
Oxford, St. Mary Parish,
COOPERATORS: Cleo “Neg” Sauce
Continued from Chapter33
JD: So,
you got married
Neg: Yeah, a lil while.
JD: And you said this was in 1944? When ya’ll built this campboat right here. OK, then what happened?
Neg: Then we bought a lil bitty campboat [laughs]. A lil bitty one. Just big enough for our bed, lil coal-oil stove. Remember them lil coal-oil stove they had? Three burners. I had build like a lil closet, put our clothes.
JD: One room.
Neg: Yeah. One room. It was neat yeah! [laughs]. It wasn’t much but it was home.
JD: How big a barge was it on?
Neg: Oh, it was very small. Probly 6-8 foot wide, maybe 16 feet long. I had put it on logs…between logs. [to make it] steady.
JD: It wasn’t a …it wasn’t a cypress barge? It wasn’t a hull barge?
Neg: Yeah. But it was small, the size of the campboat.
JD: Oh,
Neg: Yeah, right. I knew we couldn’t stay in there long, though. So, I had bought…I had went to Morgan City. They had one for sale. I guess you might still remember it. It used to be right on the side of this one.
JD: On the levee? I remember lil house…a lil house next to this one.
Neg: Yeah. It was 24-foot long
JD: So,
you went from that lil bitty one to one a lil bit bigger? Two rooms? Two rooms. Ok,
Neg: Yeah,
lived there a good while. ‘Till
my momma died, then I got… [the one his mother owned]
JD: On the levee?
Neg: Yeah,
JD: So, you inherited this one when Rosalie died?
Neg: Yeah,
it was mine, really. ‘Cause me
JD: And
Neg: He was gone [died].
JD: He was gone [died at] 32? You said?
Neg: 36.
JD: Heart attack. OK. Uh, so it was just you left to…you had built it, so it was yours.
Neg: Yeah. Really, it was mine because me
JD: Yall
brought the wood to the sawmill
Neg: Right. All them walls
JD: Is that right? And the barge ya’ll had it on at that time? What about that?
Neg: Part of that lumber we had sawed too.
JD: Two-inch lumber, big lumber? Big wood?
Neg: No, the gunnel was two inches, bottom was an inch.
JD: The gunnel was two inches. The whole length of the campboat for the barge? One piece of wood?
Neg: One piece of wood.
JD: 30 inches high? [whistles]
Neg: Uh, thirty… 22 I think it was.
JD: 22
inches high? How much freeboard did
you have between the…the water
Neg: Had plenty…put 2x6 on top of the barge, you know, when you build the cabin. You always put a 2x6 on top of the barge.
JD: So that gave you an extra six inches.
Neg: Aw, it [the house itself] was high above the water.
JD: 24 inches above the water.
Neg: Aw yeah. It didn’t sink too deep, two, three inches.
JD: That’s all it sunk? [whistles] OK, so…so you got this…you got this houseboat, and, by that time ya’ll were living on the bank.
Neg: Yeah. Living this side the levee.
JD: So,
you
Neg: Right.
JD: And all your children were born in that one with the two rooms?
Neg: Uhuh. Oh no. Some of em was born in this one.
JD: In this one. So, you lived in campboats all your life, pretty much, eh?
Neg: Aw, yeah. Until we moved back [across] of the levee. [?]
JD: Well, still…this is still a campboat, I mean…on the levee.
Neg: Yeah. yeah. Really, that’s not a house, can’t say you build a house, just a campboat we moved.
JD: How did ya’ll pull those campboats over the levee when ya’ll came across?
Neg: With a winch truck.
JD: You parked the winch truck on top the levee…or?
Neg: Yeah,
park it on top the levee
JD: What kind of a sling did ya’ll use to hook up to em…I mean how did ya’ll hook up to the…to the…campboat to pull it?
Neg: I
don’t really remember…to pull it up the levee, I don’t really remember. I guess, probly tied to the main barge, I
would imagine, you know. Be solid enough
to…to pull the whole thing up. When…when
we pull it up…2x6 [not clear here about connecting 2x6s to the barge for
something]. Probly tied onto the 2x6s, I
would imagine, to pull it up. When I
moved it from where Bootsie was, to where I was, made me some…I had went way
back in on Goat Isl
JD: It was still floating though, they were floatin.
Neg: Oh yeah, they were floatin. Talking about the…the timbers that I had made.
JD: You…you
made the timbers back on Goat Isl
Neg: On
JD: You
trimmed em
Neg: Right.
JD: And they were as long as the barge? As the house?
Neg: They were as long as the house.
JD: One on each side.
Neg: One on each side. And I put em under there…underneath there
JD: And that’s still what this house is sitting on?
Neg: Still sittin on it.
JD: On the ground? Or its got some…
Neg: No, got blocks under it…But it’s still the…the pieces that I made.
JD: How big were those trees to start with?
Neg: [chuckles] All of em were about that big.
JD: About three feet across at the bottom?
Neg: Pretty close, at the bottom. [whistling]. And they had to be, 30 foot long…
JD: To…to…when they were trimmed, they had to be 30 feet, I guess?
Neg: Yeah. And…so by the time you get to the top they had to be big at the bottom, you know, to make the top big enough.
JD: Sure, sure. How long did you work on that?
Neg: Probly a week or two.
JD: Now, was that to get it across…to come across the levee?
Neg: That was to move it from where it was to
where I was…I had to come back up the levee
JD: So, ya’ll had to come up, down, back down again?
Neg: Right. But I had a big foundation [but] it didn’t move [well], I guess. Those piece that I made. [laughs]. Didn’t even swag.
JD: Y'all broke up the barge when ya’ll came across the levee the first time?
Neg: No,
we had pulled the barge
JD: Everything. But I guess after a while ya’ll broke up the
barge
Neg: Aw yeah.
Um, I had took the barge out
from underneath there,
JD: You could? [amazed]
Neg: For a while. And after momma died, some of em wanted to sell it, the campboat.
JD: This one, or the little [other] one?
Neg: This
one. And that’s when I said the
campboat belongs to me. Which is the
truth. You know? ”Yall can’t sell it”. Say, “I want it”. And I got it.
Now, it was Robert, Ophelia, Ida
JD: Jesse [Ida’s husb
Neg: Yeah. No, Jesse was living.
JD: And
they broke it up
Neg: Yeah. There’s a lot of the lumber on that house
there [Ida’s current house, the converted houseboat]. Build the porch,
JD: Was that ever a houseboat, what Ida’s living in right now?
Neg: Yeah.
JD: It was? It was a campboat?
Neg: It was.
JD: They
just built onto it a lot since it’s been on the l
Neg: They
renewed it. They got a carpenter to
renew the floor.
JD: When ya’ll were living on the other side…in Myon’s Canal…what
made ya’ll decide…”OK, I’m gone pull across the levee”? Because, for you, all your life had been
spent on the water. I mean, when you’d
step outside your house
Neg: Aw, that’s for sure. [laughs]
JD: All your life. And then, ya’ll were living in Myon’s Canal…I got it on paper, there were about 15 campboats living in Myon’s Canal about that time…punch of em! Bunch of em!
Neg: Yeah, they had a bunch.
JD: And suddenly…I shouldn’t say
suddenly…that’s not true. But after a
while, ya’ll all
decided…most of ya’ll decided…ya’ll were gone pull over the levee
Neg: I don’t know. I guess because everybody else was moving, you know, on this side, so, probly figured I was gone go on this side too. [laughs]. Live on the bank.
JD: But, I mean, that was a big change!
Neg: Talk about a big change! They had, uh, like Edward’s daddy…Edward’s daddy, I think, was the first one to move.
JD: Albert?
Neg: Yeah. On this side. And after that, every now
JD: So, it didn’t happen all at once, huh? I mean…
Neg: No,
not all at once. One stayed…maybe
months…or maybe a year apart.
Every now
JD: You,
uh, when you got over there, when you crossed the levee, and you were on l
Neg: Oh yeah.
JD: And, you couldn’t just…you couldn’t just
do the things that you had done before.
You couldn’t decide for instance that you wanted to live somewhere else
for six months
Neg: No, couldn’t leave, had to stay there. [laughs]
JD: How did you feel about that?
Neg: It was pretty nice. Like when the wind blow
JD: So, that was something that was better…
Neg: Yeah, in a way it was better.
JD: You could…uh…you didn’t have to worry about it sinking either.
Neg: No. But…the [barges] we had didn’t leak a drop. Dry like this here [the floor]. The one that I pulled…the other…that didn’t leak a drop…
JD: That was your second one…the one with two rooms?
Neg: Yeah. Now, our old campboat that we had didn’t leak, at all. It was dry like that [the floor again].
JD: The old one? Now which one you talking about, the old one?
Neg: The old one, my daddy’s. The one I was raised in? That was an old campboat, puuuu [amazed].
JD: What happened to that one?
Neg: We traded it for another smaller one, after
he died. We had traded it to my uncle…he
sold it to Arthur S
JD: That was a long time ago?
Neg: Aw yeah. I think that…I think Mike tored that campboat up.
JD: Mike?
Neg: S
JD: It was a big boat? Your daddy’s campboat? Like this one?
Neg: Oh
yeah. It was a lil longer than this one. I think it was 12 foot wide
JD: That’s
the one you grew up on?
Neg: Yeah.
JD: And it was dry like that…the hull was dry like that?
Neg: Awww yeah. Didn’t leak a drop. It might have been 40 years old. And it might a been older than that…[?]
JD: When
ya’ll got over the canal, when ya’ll got over the levee I mean, ya’ll had
things like…like you say…like it was on l
Neg: Yeah. It was a good while after we was there,
though. A good while after we was on
the bank before they passed electric.
That’s why CLECO gripe
JD: So, Teche [Electrical Coopertive?] did a good thing for ya’ll.
Neg: Oh yeah. That’s why I…all of us…mostly stuck with Teche.
JD: When ya’ll were living…when ya’ll were living in the Canal, this canal, Myon’s Canal, is that what ya’ll called it? Myon’s Canal? What did ya’ll call it when ya’ll were there?
Neg: I don’t know how it become [laughs] to be Myon’s Canal. I guess because Myon lived there. It was just a drainage canal that they used to have there, before they build the big levee. For field drainage. It was open, if you remember, all the way to the lake. But, they had that…from the first canal, where we used to live in the back by the levee? That lil levee, by the shad point, used to run all the way across there. Aw yeah. That was all closed in. And Jesse [Daigle] decided that he was gone dig it open. And he did too. He cut it with a shovel, cut that lil levee. And the water did the rest. Sho did.
JD: Um, but it was…the canal was known as Myon’s Canal to all of ya’ll who lived there? Is that what it was called?
Neg: Yeah, we lived there for a long time, I guess that’s why they decided…people decided to call it Myon’s Canal.
JD: Now, while ya’ll were living in the Canal, ya’ll were fishing of course?
Neg: Oh yeah.
JD: Yall were fishing for a living. Yall all had Lockwoods by that time, I guess,
Neg: Yeah.
JD: And you sold your…that’s what interests me now at this point, is… ya’ll were living in the canal…at the mouth of the canal…
Neg: Yeah, at the mouth of the canal.
JD: Mouth. All of ya’ll were up there at the front.
Neg: Yeah. When we first moved…moved there…our campboat used to stick out [into] the edge of the lake.
JD: Yours did? Blaise’s…no Rosalie…
Neg: Uhuh. [then] Yeah, my momma.
JD: Uh, that’s because there wasn’t enough room to put it in the back, or what?
Neg: Yeah. well, they had plenty room in the canal but
the canal had build up [filled with sediment]
JD: Oh. So, in the back it was…it was built…it was shallow in the back?
Neg: Yeah. They ain’t had no…hardly no…well, they ain’t had no water at all, it was dry when the water was low.
JD: How did it get deep like it is…like it is now?
Neg: Oaklawn
[the property owner] decided to dig it.
And they dug it. A dragline
JD: Yall were there when they dug it?
Neg: Oh yeah.
JD: Y'all had to move your campboats out while they dug it out?
Neg: No, they dug from the campboats [toward] where it was dry.
JD: Well, ya’ll were selling your fish while ya’ll were living in the canal, in Myon’s Canal. But how? How were ya’ll sellin your fish?
Neg: Oscar Lange used to come get em.
JD: How?
Neg: By truck. Yeah, he’d come by truck. When we first moved there, the fishboat was still assin. Jesse Higgins, he would buy fish.
JD: In a fishboat?
Neg: Yeah. Sold a lot of fish to Jesse.
JD: And then Oscar Lange started to…started to run a truck out there to get the fish? How often would he come?
Neg: Oh, every two, three days.
JD: So ya’ll still had to put your fish in fish cars?
Neg: Yeah. He’d come out there
JD: How did he do that? How did…how did he get…I mean I know the road wasn’t that good…
Neg: Well, then the roads was pretty good cause they had shelled it.
JD: They had shelled on top the levee or on the bottom?
Neg: On the top.
JD: He would come there with his truck. And if ya’ll were all living out there, at the end, how would he get the fish from the…from his truck…
Neg: It was when…we had moved in the back of the canal by then. Living by the levee.
JD: It still must have been hard to get those fish from down at the bottom up [to] the top of that levee in the truck?
Neg: We’d carry em up there, you didn’t get em up there in the truck. [laughs]. Carried em up there.
JD: In…in what? In boxes, or in…
Neg: In boxes.
JD: [whistles] And I guess you had to take whatever he wanted to pay you for em huh?
Neg: Yeah. Whatever they’d pay, that’s what you’d sell em for.
JD: Did ya’ll feel like they were being fair most of the time?
Neg: I think so. It was fair. I think so.
JD: The fishboats
Neg: Oh yeah, I think so.
JD: Where was Oscar Lange’s fish dock? Where did he …?
Neg: At Calumet.
JD: Is there anything now there?
Neg: Now? No, uhuh.
JD: There’s no building or anything where he had his fishdock?
Neg: No, it’s all [gone]. Not too far from the bridge, there.
JD: I
underst
Neg: Yeah.
Edward had started buying, but [some of em…?] didn’t like that so he
quit
JD: Did Myon quit fishing about that time?
Neg: Oh, Myon was still fishing, you know, a lil bit. Not as much, but he would still fish.
JD: When I first met ya’ll on the levee, had ya’ll been selling fish to Myon there underneath that shed for a long time?
Neg: Good long time. A good while.
JD: If ya’ll crossed the levee…I think ya’ll crossed the
levee somewhere around between…like you say, some would go
Neg: Uh, no, later than that. We build that houseboat here in 1944. We build this at uh…at the canal. Myon had moved back to the canal, but we was still living on this side.
JD: The canal being Blaise’s Canal on the other side?
Neg: Right. And me
JD: Yall built this?
Neg: Yeah,
me
JD: Across that…at Blaise’s Canal?
Neg: At Blaise’s Canal.
JD: Well, how did ya’ll get all that lumber over there to do all that stuff with?
Neg: By boat.
JD: You would run the Lockwood over to the
sawmill
Neg: Yeah.
JD: What’d ya’ll call that? A bateau?
Neg: A lil bateau, abut 20 foot long, 24 foot long.
JD: And ya’ll would carry everything around like that [in bateaux].
Neg: Yeah.
A lot of the lumber, too, get from the fishboats too. You’d tell em what you want, Pinkerman
Mendoza used to buy fish,
JD: He would pull logs to the sawmill? For ya’ll?
Neg: For the one that wanted to.
JD: Anybody?
Neg: Cut em at May Brothers. Garden City.
JD: Yall would have those logs cut for, like, half?
Neg: The ones that I had cut, yeah. The ones we had cut, we had to cut em up here, or, in Charenton. Mr. Henry Acair, used to have a lil sawmill in Charenton. And that’s where we had em sawed.
JD: Would he saw for on half, is that how you would do it?
Neg: Yeah.
JD: For
half, so you’d get half the lumber
Neg: He had a nice place, sawmill.
JD: It’s all gone?
Neg: Oh
yeah. No, his house still there,
JD: You
see, that’s a whole big thing about all these campboats,
Neg: Yep. No they ain’t got too…the new people don’t know too much about it. Old people, everybody lives in house, now. Nobody hardly lived around the bayous. Them days, they had a lot of people living down the bayous.
JD: A lot of people, huh? That brings up another question, you know, you say a lot of people were living around the bayous…you talking about on campboats…in various places?
Neg: Yeah, all along the lake. From Bayou Boutte all the way back to Keelboat [Pass].
JD: Well,
let me ask you that then. I’m interested
in how many places…you see, on Blaise’s Canal ya’ll had a bunch of campboats,
on Myon’s Canal ya’ll had a bunch of campboats, on Keelboat there was a bunch
of campboats. Bayou Boutte there was a
bunch of campboats. I’m wondering, if you was to start, just for the sake of
trying to remember, if you were to start…let me say at Bayou Boutte, because
that’s about as far south as I know of, toward
Neg: Yeah.
JD: If you start at Bayou Boutte, come up the lake on the other side. How many – not just one…two…one or two, I’m talking about how many bunches of campboats can you place in your mind all the way up to…I don’t know how far up you can go…
Neg: They used to go all the way to Keelboat [Pass] for sure.
JD: Well, start at Bayou Boutte, how many can you…how many places can you remember where there used to be bunches of…like 10 or 12 at least?
Neg: Well, along Bayou Boutte, and our canal [Blaise’s]. Now, at different times, now, you know, they had people who would move. By times they had seven, eight, ten campboats be in that canal, where Myon was.
JD: In Blaise’s Canal?
Neg: Right. And the same thing in Lil Pigeon and all the way up to Keelboat it was like that.
JD: Ok, so you got Bayou Boutte, and the next one…you go all the way to Blaise’s Canal before you get a bunch?
Neg: Yeah.
JD: So, there was not much between Bayou Boutte and Blaise’s Canal?
Neg: Not much.
JD: And then you got a bunch in Blaise’s Canal, and the next one up…
Neg: Big Pigeon.
JD: Big Pigeon first.
Neg: Lil Pigeon, Bayou Smith, the Burns…the Burns used to stay in Bayou Smith. And my uncle, they used to live in Lil Pigeon. By times, we used to live in Lil Pigeon, and then we’d come back…back and forth. Yeah. My uncle Phillip, he used to live in Lil Pigeon, my Uncle Alvin...Alvin Mayon…
JD: He was married to one of your aunts?
Neg: Yeah, Aunt Nini. Used to call her Nini. That was my daddy’s sister.
JD: Your daddy’s sister, but I don’t have that as a name. I have Philomena, Lucia, Anna, Florence and Matile.
Neg: Anyway, I don’t know…[it might have been a nickname]. We used to call her Aunt Francis… Tante Nini!
JD: All right, so, you got to uh, Big Pigeon, Lil Pigeon, Bayou Smith, Catfish Bayou? They had a bunch there?
Neg: Yeah, all them lil bayous almost, you know…by times they had somebody living…
JD: But I’m talking about where there was…if there was bunches…
Neg: At Bayou Smith they had…the Burnses lived in Bayou Smith…and from Bayou Smith, it was, the next place I think was Keelboat.
JD: Edward and them lived there. And Hog Island. You know?
Neg: I guess somebody problem lived there too…I’m not too familiar with it.
JD: Now, if you come down the other side, Neg, cross…cross
Neg: They had some in Lil Pass, but not…not a bunch, I remember one, Reese’s that used to stay there…. Neg Reese, Norman and all them. His old man used to have a camp over there.
JD: But comin down this side [West side] of the lake, not too many?
Neg: Not too many.
JD: Not like the other side?
Neg: Not like the other side.
JD: Why do you think?
Neg: At Bayou Grue, Pete and them…
JD: Gondolfo? [prounounced G
Neg: …Gondolfo, used to stay there.
JD: They had a bunch of houseboats or just one?
Neg: Uh, they just had a couple. Him and his brother…
JD: John?
Neg: Yeah, now, by times they might’a had other people there too, I don’t know.
JD: Now how about Myon’s Canal, right here, was there always a big bunch of houseboat s in there? Or….
Neg: No, when we first moved there, for a while we were by ourself. Lester used to live at the end [on the lake end].
JD: Couvillier?
Neg: Yeah. And then we had moved back across there, and to his momma’s, lived in a house like I told you [?]. By times, they had a bunch of campboats, by times not too many. They didn’t have no room for em to pull in there.
JD: They didn’t have room?
Neg: Until we moved back by the levee.
JD: Yeah, everybody wanted to be up by the lake, I guess, huh?
Neg: Well, they ain’t had no water in the bayou [laughs].
JD: And then you didn’t have to go…well, I guess there’d be two things…if you were back in the canal you were better as far as wind was concerned…
Neg: Oh yeah.
JD: But if you were up near the front you were closer to the lake to get out…to go out and fish, and all that.
Neg: Yeah. And it was much cooler in the summer. You get that lil breeze from the lake. They used to have a good bunch of campboats in Myon’s canal.
JD: Well, I counted…like I say…I have on paper…I counted 15.
Neg: Musta had. Jean [Geme?] Smith used to be in there. I don’t remember how many but a good bunch.
JD: I
was going to see if I could [find the list on paper]. In the canal, see if you remember
any…any of em that I don’t read off here…see if you remember if there’s
anybody…there was Edward Couvillier
Neg: Yeah, but they didn’t live in the canal though…
JD: They didn’t live in the canal?
Neg: They lived in Bayou Grue. Then they moved across the levee over there by the ramp [Myette Pt. Landing].
JD: OK. [continuing] Abner Couvillier, and Albert Couvillier, Roy Millet – Bootsie, Joe Sauce, Jesse Daigle, Dan Lange Joe Sanders…huh?
Neg: He lived there.
JD: Lester Couvillier, Arthur Sanders, Nick Verrett, and Plot Sauce. I don’t know who that is.
Neg: Yeah, I know who it is, but he never lived in there.
JD: He never lived in a campboat on the…on the bayou?
Neg: He was my uncle…one of my uncles?
JD: He was one of your uncles? Let me see if I can figure out…
Neg: He didn’t live in the…he never did live at Myette Pt, him.
JD: Well, I wonder where [I got that information]?
Neg: My Uncle Phillip camped there, didn’t live in a campboat…just camped right up there a couple times. He’d camp there a few days.
JD: Your Phillip Aucoin?
Neg: Yeah.
JD: Uh, Plot Sauce, if he was your uncle, he was married to one of your aunts?
Neg: No, he was my daddy’s brother.
JD: He was your daddy’s brother? Did he have another name?
Neg: Seulfried
JD: Seulfried? Was that his name? All right! Seulfried was his real name?
Neg: Yeah.
JD: OK, that’s good. Seulfried was his real name.
Neg: Seulfried, right. He was my parrain.
JD: Your parrain? Your godfather?
Neg: Umhm.
JD: Can you think of anybody else that was living…at…in that bunch of houseboats all in the canal before ya’ll started moving over? Anybody I didn’t name?
Neg: Name em again?
JD: OK,
uh, Edward
Neg: And they been living in the canal until they moved by the ramp…they house was there. But they didn’t live in the canal [Myon’s canal].
JD: Then there was Abner and Albert Couvillier, and Lester, all three of them, and then there was Joe Sauce, he married Vena, Vena Couvillier,
Neg: My uncle too.
JD: And then Jesse and Dan Lange…Jesse Daigle and Dan Lange, and Joe Sanders and Arthur Sanders, and then I have Nick Verrett down here…[?] And who is he kin to? Anybody?
Neg: And they had Jean [Gene?] Smith used to live there too.
JD: He didn’t move across the levee with ya’ll, at all, though, did he?
Neg: No, not Gene, he had moved to uh, he had moved to Charenton and put his campboat on the bank.
JD: Oh, just as a question to see if you remember…if you know the name…uh, apparently Russell and EJ [Daigle] had a brother that drowned in the Basin, do you remember what his name was?
Neg: Uhh, Jesse, I believe. He was named after his daddy, I think.
JD: He drowned, huh?
Neg: Yeah, he drowned, in back of the levee.
JD: He couldn’t swim?
Neg: No. He
had went…he had a lil line back of the levee,
JD: Did they find him right away?
Neg: A little while after, yeah, not long.
JD: He wasn’t floating or anything? He was on the bottom?
Neg: Oh no, few minutes after he drownded, they found him.
JD: Is that all?! Was he about ten years old?
Neg: Yeah, I think that was…about ten years old.
JD: Did that happen…did that happen a lot, to ya’ll? Did ya’ll have accidents a lot?
Neg: Not really.
Not really. Now
JD: And I underst
Neg:
JD: You could? You could stay on top, I guess.
Neg: Yeah. Now [at this time] I couldn’t swim. Fall overboard now I’m a goner. [laughs]. I could swim a lil, like across the canal.
JD: Dog paddle, like that…on the side?
Neg: Yeah. Was never a good swimmer. I could swim a lil bit.
JD: Did your kids all learn how to swim?
Neg: Uhuh.
JD: No?? [laughs]
Neg: Marie, there, she can’t swim. Goes in them boat
JD: She doesn’t wear a life jacket?
Neg: No.
JD: That’s not good.
Neg: No, it’s not good. That’s why I tell…keep that life jacket by you, [in] case you fall. And I know how dangerous it is, sometime your boat just hit something, you know, not…I used to watch all those things, me, I keep myself braces [ braced?] good in my boat.
Continued on Chapter 35
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